AFTER READING THIS, MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORTED DON-JAZZY IN THE DON-JAZZY/D'BANJ BREAK UP SAGA MAY JUST HAVE A CHANGE OF MIND
Finally we get to hear D'Banj's side of the story, as D'Banj speaks with NET NG
It was 4am on Saturday, April 21. I arrived in London eight hours earlier, and had spent almost all of that time chatting with D’banj, in his first interview with a Nigerian newspaper in a long time, and his first interview on the Mo’Hits brouhaha.
London is D’banj’s town. He’s performed there over and over, his single ‘Oliver Twist’ is on the A-list at Choice FM,
and enjoys heavy rotation on other stations. A day before I came, he
spent hours doing interviews at the Universal offices in Kensington.
Some might hail D’banj as the man championing the gospel of ‘Afrobeats’
across the world. But, just like the london cab driver that drove me,
does not yet know D’banj.
As we walk into the
Choice FM building in the afternoon on Saturday, there are no heads
turning or fans gazing. In fact, his lawyer, Elias, who wore a pair of
loud snakeskin boots, attracted more attention than D’banj.
Who leaves a zone where
they’re comfortable and celebrated; where they’re established and
successful, for a place where no one seems to give the slightest care?
D’banj, that’s who.
The 31 year-old entertainer has spent nearly two years building structures he hopes will help take his music to new markets in Europe,
and especially America. This move, he believes, cost him his friendship
and business relationship with his long time partner Don Jazzy.
‘I’m a risk taker’, he says. ‘Life
is all about risks. But you must never endanger yourself. I don’t
endanger myself, which is why, even though I’m here, I’m still in
Nigeria all the time, performing’.
With incredible energy, and the kind of passion that endeared everyone to him when he first moved back to Nigeria in 2005, D’banj says his deal with Kanye West is a case of ‘preparation meets opportunity’.
‘I pulled up
with my entourage at the Emirates first class lounge in Dubai. We were
returning from Scott Tommey’s birthday. I came down with Bankuli, my
P.A. Chuchu, and my business manager Chidi. My entourage was large and I
was looking fly. One of the hostesses ran to me with a Kanye West
placard. I said I’m not Kanye o – then I told my guys ‘Kanye is around
so no dulling.’ Chuchu and Bankuli spotted Kanye walking in to check in.
They went to him and he said we could come over’.
‘As they came, I had
my iPad with me, and my headphones. First thing Kanye said was ‘I like
your T-shirt’. I wore a Zara T-shirt and a D&G ring. He liked my
appearance and said he’d give me 5 minutes. I told him ‘I played with
you in Nigeria during NB PLC Star Megajam. I’ve done a song with Snoop and we’re going to shoot the video now.
I’d like to play you my songs.’ I played Oliver, Scapegoat, and Fall in
love. He was dancing. He removed the headphones and said ‘I don’t mean
to sound rude, but if anyone has to bring you out in the states, it has
to be me, not Snoop. He asked when I was going to be in the US, and I
told him I was going there that day. Then he asked who my producer was,
and I said Don Jazzy. He said ‘come with him.’
Three months
later, D’banj, Don Jazzy and their crew were in New York, where,
according to D’banj, it took almost forever before they could establish
contact with Kanye. ‘It was only an email address he gave us at the
airport. So when we got to NY, we sent several emails but got no
response. Not a single one.’
‘Then we met someone
that knew someone that knew another someone and we got another email
address. We sent several messages again, no response. Then Bankuli sent a
final one saying, ‘we have been in New York for some time and sent
several emails. We have waited long enough and are now on our way to do the Snoop Dogg video’
And then the reply came. ‘Sorry to have overlooked your earlier emails. Mr. Kanye would like to meet with you tomorrow.’
‘We didn’t believe
it. Don Jazzy, who had been reluctant all along, still did not believe
it. Even when we got there (Wyclef’s studio) the next day, he stood
outside. When Kanye came I went to call him ‘Oya come now, come play am
the music now’. It was difficult to believe it was real and it was
happening. Then when Kanye came in, with the GOOD music acts, I was
like, ‘wow’.
From there everything happened fast. Next they were meeting Jay Z, making a presentation to LA Reid
(At Electric studios), and discussing contracts. But while the label
offered him a traditional recording contract, D’banj opted for a joint
venture agreement structured to guarantee three things: retaining full
control of his materials in Africa, signing Don Jazzy on board (on
behalf on Mohits USA), and, he says, bringing the Universal/Def Jam
imprint to Africa.
‘I’ve always
thought of how I can be a useful vessel to the industry. A friend and
colleague always says to me: ‘D’banj, you’re the Jesus Christ of the
industry.’ So having ran Mohits for nine years, I already had plans of
how we could blow Mohits up. I had plans of expanding, and most
especially, bringing hope to that 11 year-old kid somewhere in Africa
who may never have had the opportunity to get signed to major labels’.
‘So it was not
really just about me. There’s a big market in Africa. I said to them,
‘I’ve sold millions of records in Africa, we’ve done millions of hits
with CRBT, and I’ve run the most successful label on the continent. You
take care of the US, but let me take you to Africa.‘ And I’m happy
to tell you that we’re doing that. D’banj’s album will be the first
under Universal/Def Jam Africa, and we’re already putting all the
structures in place’.
‘I’m a businessman.’ I
learnt from my mom, who’s a very successful businesswoman. So having run
and funded Mohits for nine years, I knew we had to move to the next
level. And everything we wanted was happening. Finally we could take
African music to the world.’
Just like the lyrics of
the song, D’banj was an Oliver Twist. Here’s a guy who had conquered a
continent; was sitting on the top three list, and making more money than
anyone else in his category. D’banj was a big player in Nigeria, where
there are over 150 million people; a big player in Africa, with over 850
million people. But he wanted to play big globally, with 7 billion
people to grab from.
And that’s where the problem started. ‘Don
Jazzy was no longer comfortable. You know, we were like fishes out of
water, in this new system, starting all over again, like when we
returned home in 2004. I got him a place in the US, set up a studio
there, just so he’d be comfortable and be able to work without going to
hang around the studios. In one year Jazzy did not make a song. I said,
maybe you want to go back to Lagos, you’ll get inspiration there?’
I was all about the work, I wanted us to make this happen, so we can
bridge that gap and create a path for Africa. But Jazzy wanted us to go
back home. And I understand. He’s my friend, my brother’.
‘But I never
expected him to do what he did.’ He said to me in July last year ‘Let’s
scatter Mohits. He told me there are two captains – two captains cannot
be in a ship. I was like ‘that’s not possible, this is a marriage’. He
said ‘then this marriage is no longer working’. I said then let’s go for
counseling; I asked, so what happens to our children?’
Don Jazzy wanted Mohits,
D’banj says. And that happened on April 16, 2012 – after months of a
bitter feud, characterized by accusations and counter accusations, widespread speculation, leaked emails and failed reconciliation attempts.
‘You can see he has signed already’, he said, showing the agreement with Don Jazzy’s signature. ‘I have full rights to my catalogue and full ownership of my Koko Holdings, while he has full ownership of Mo’Hits, including the artistes and liabilities.’
Already judged guilty in the court of public opinion, and publicly disowned by his own boys Wande Coal and Dr SID, D’banj says he’s sad, but not bitter. Does he feel kind of lonely, alone in the cold? ‘Asking
me if I’m lonely because Wande or Jazzy has left me is like asking my
first sister if she’s lonely now – she has two kids now, lives in
Canada. Don Jazzy is still my brother – we just had to move on. We’ll
still work together in future, same with my boys. In fact, just this
week, he sent me the remix to Oliver Twist that we’re releasing in the UK on May 14.
All the interviews I’ve had here, I kept hyping him. It’s already in my
system – you know me, I’m a one-way soldier. Jazzy is a very quiet
person. Loyalty is key. My loyalty still lies in the friendship I had
with him. He was cheated by JJC, and I was present. I swore never to
cheat him. But I’d like to think our visions became different.
‘It was clear when
we met that Jazzy wanted to be the biggest producer, I wanted to be the
biggest African entertainer, not the biggest singer. I had my mind on
money. In order to say I’m the biggest, I had to be the richest. So for a
very long time, he was on the back end. He respected my act, I
respected his music judgment. Every meeting that brought us money I went
for. I’d say I need to confirm from Don Jazzy because that was the
agreement, even though I knew it was my decision. First Glo deal was
$500,000. That Landcruiser jeep was because of my demands. It was
because of the skill and exposure that I used to bargain. I’m a
businessman’
‘People
say I’m less talented, I was known as a jester in the JJC squad. I’d
make everyone happy and play the mouth organ, but I knew what I wanted. I
decided to give Don Jazzy power in 2007 when we realized that after
four years, they did not recognize us as a record label. We had signed
artistes and done all this work. So we restructured, and restrategized.
So I told him to chill, so he can be more respected and be the don. I’m
older than him by one year, yet I respected him like a don.
I remember when he came out at Ali Baba show, I knelt down for him, so people would say he’s the baba. All the talking in my ears and all, it was an arrangement. All the Soundcity advert and all, he did not tell me anything. It was all an arrangement.’
I remember when he came out at Ali Baba show, I knelt down for him, so people would say he’s the baba. All the talking in my ears and all, it was an arrangement. All the Soundcity advert and all, he did not tell me anything. It was all an arrangement.’
With his UK publicist Vanessa Amadi taking notes nearby, his manager Bankulli
interjecting every now and then, and several legal documents
surrounding us, D’banj spoke passionately of his former partner in the
same way a man might go on about a cherished and respected, but
estranged, lover. He’s on his sixth cigarette, and thinks the room is
stuffy, even though no one complains. So he opens the sliding glass for
ventilation. ‘Jazzy did his part’, he says, sitting down again and looking me in the face. ‘He
made the music for nine years. But nothing stops him from making for
twenty more years. We could have changed the formula. Why didn’t he want
to change the formula? It was time to expand the business, Mohits was
Motown reloaded. We always knew we would expand, he always said I had
more swagger than anyone else he knows, And I know he’s one of the best
producers in the world; we wanted to make Mohits the biggest in Africa.
Other labels were springing up. So if we could conquer America, London
when no one had done it before. Most of our people stop in Germany, or
Paris. But this is America, this is the big league; it makes us the
strongest, the biggest. We had already made the money. And who best to
introduce me to the rest of the world? Kanye did not want to change
anything about my music, my style of dressing, or my brand. It is God’s
favour. But Jazzy was and is very scared. Something had worked for eight
years, so he wanted to maintain the status quo. People are afraid to
try new things.’
‘But’, he tells me, still maintaining eye contact while lighting another cigarette, ‘I’m not afraid. I’m a vessel that God is trying to use to help the industry. I’m a bridge. Once
in a few years, one artiste comes from the UK to run the world, none
has come from Africa. Fela was the closest. It’s been my own dream; I
made my name from Nigeria, unlike Seal, Wale, and Tinie Tempah. And I
want to bring Universal, Def Jam and all to Nigeria. So if I
can build that bridge, then we’re good, because it will give hope to the
boys in Asaba, in Oshogbo that this thing is possible.’
The day after our Canary Wharf interview, we meet up at Highbury Islington, where he’s shooting a documentary and the promo for the Oliver Twist competition for the UK. D’banj’s new crew: Semtex (a white A&R rep from the label), Bankuli and Vanessa, are on the ground, working with the production team. ‘This is why we’re here o. This is the work’, he says as he invites me into the dressing room.
‘And when people say
why am I not talking, this is why. I’m focused on making this happen.
It’s more important for me to make sure I don’t disappoint all those who
have invested in me; all those who believe in me and are supporting the
movement, than to be fighting over who’s right or wrong. Even now that
I’m talking to you, I don’t even know if I should be doing this
interview.’
It’s very unexpected
that D’banj – the super aggresive D’banj – is speaking in this manner.
He has fought many battles, cut off many former friend-associates,
ignored the Nigerian media, and reportedly humiliated several Mo’hits
members, including Ikechukwu and Dr SID. Temperamental, often impatient,
and vocal, those who know him will tell you the D’banj they know, is
not the one that’s speaking.
So I ask:
The perception
is that you’ve become arrogant, unreachable, proud. You’re not the
D’banj we used to know; not the D’banj I used to know – and most people
in the media will say this is true
D'Banj:
Obviously people will say stuff – but this is me. I can’t keep up with
everyone, no matter how much I try. But I understand where I’m coming
from. I cant forget my roots – all the interviews I had yesterday, I was
‘bigging up’ DJ Abass, he gave me my first show in London. You saw me
giving Jazzy props in my interview earlier. That’s me. If I was arrogant
I wouldn’t have been the one even chasing Jazzy around since he told me
last July that he wanted to scatter Mohits. Last time I saw him was on February 19 at Irving Plaza. He didn’t support the show, and he only came on stage when SID and Wande were performing. I wanted peace.
And even my mom, who had
supported us from beginning, who gave us the house we stayed in (in
Michael Otedola estate, Lagos), the Previa bus we used and paid for Tongolo video, spoke to his parents last December; ‘this is what your son said o’. I remember my mom saying to me, ‘if you guys have been together all these years, and no wahala, then if you need to part, I hope there’ll be no wahala.’
She was very particular about that. I had enough proof to have come out
and speak; this thing has been on for a long time, and we’re in April
now. But I don’t want to cause any wahala. I don’t want to spoil
anything. I don’t want trouble. Right now, I just want to be able to
move on and do my business.’
That’s surprising, because when the leaked emails emerged, revealing private email conversations between the estranged partners, all fingers pointed at D’banj. Don Jazzy, a likeable celeb and social media addict, didn’t have anything to prove. D’banj was the one who looked bad, and, understandably, would want to make a move that could earn him public sympathy.
‘The signing (away of my
shares in Mohits) was already being discussed before April 16. If I
kept quiet from January till now, what would it benefit me to leak
anything? Remember all the stuff about my password and all? We know
where that was from, I really wouldn’t want to think it was from him, my
brother, but it could be from anywhere, but I don’t want to call
anyone’s name’
But were the emails forged?
D'Banj:
Everything in those emails were facts. And I don’t even think the mails
favoured me in any way. It’s not the exact mails that were sent and
signed, but there were elements of truth in the mails that were
published.’
Why did you tell Ebony you own Mohits?
D'Banj: My mom advised me not to speak. And the interviewer took it out of context. I co-owned Mohits. We registered the business in 2004, and we owned it 50:50. So I spoke about that, but the interviewer took it wrong and the fans put pressure on them and they corrected it.
D'Banj: I never wanted to have any
interview. It was on the eve of my US show. I was told I should do the
interview, because they’re very troublesome. I had to do the interview
for the sake of my show the next day. I was guaranteed that there’d be
no politics questions. I had not been in the country. And I had been
under pressure. Sadly, when that happened and I was being attacked in
the media, none of my guys came out to support me.
Looking at all this, what are your regrets?
D'Banj:
The truth is that if nothing went wrong, you’d have still heard all
this good news and Mohits would take the glory, I didn’t come out in
eight years to say anything. Everyone made their contributions. There
were no issues, as long as it worked. My mistake was thinking that we
were one. People don’t question their brothers and sisters.
How do you feel about Wande Coal and Dr. SID taking sides with Jazzy?
D'Banj: I won’t be too quick to judge Wande Coal. I hear it was Jazzy that tweeted those Wande tweets.
I don’t know how true that is, but I know he had our social media
accounts. As at a month ago, I couldn’t access any of my accounts. My password was changed on Twitter and Facebook.
Then Universal intervened. I’m about to be verified on Twitter now. I’m
not really a social media person, so it was Don Jazzy and some of our
other guys that were running it. Wande himself knows the truth. He
cannot talk to me like that. The whole Mohits knew who ran the label
businesswise. They knew who to come to when they needed to get money
out, after we recorded the album. Who knows the factory where Dansa was
made? But you will know the marketing manager. The car he’s driving, I
bought him a brand new Prado from Phyllis and Moss after he crashed the
car he won from Hiphop World awards. I bought six Range Rovers last
year. I bought D’Prince an LR 3 last year, he crashed it, then I bought
him a Range, and it’s true that I bought two Bentleys. Because of Jazzy.
But after July last year, after the issue with Jazzy, I bought myself
the Aston Martin.
You bought that? I thought that was a gift?
D'Banj: I bought it.
How were you able to fund all that?
D'Banj:
In the last nine years, there are a few people and corporate bodies
that God has helped me build relationships with, either individuals or
banks, or even corporates that are involved in the growth of the
industry. I’ve enjoyed their support, and even now that we’re going
global, we’re pooling the funds together from all these places.
Could you possibly be Nigeria’s richest pop star? A billionaire?
D'Banj:
Vanity upon vanity. Money is material. In terms of what we’re doing,
you’ll call me a Trillionaire, because this vision is too big for only
me. With the help of the industry, the government, people like you
Ayeni, we will not only be billionaires, but trillionaires, and not just
me, but every little kid that has same talent like Beyonce, or Nicki
Minaj. And with the standard of the UMG worldwide, we can pass people
out from our own Universal Music Group Africa, Universal Def Jam Africa,
and everyone should jump on this ship with us. It’s not the Titanic.
There’s been a lot of confusion – what label exactly are you signed on?
D'Banj:
My album comes out under my label/GOOD Music/Island Def Jam. I’m
funding the D’banj album, in America, through GOOD Music/Island Def Jam.
GOOD Music is Kanye West who is co-executive producing with me. The
deal comprises of Island Def Jam, in US. But in UK, it is under Mercury.
My first single will be released in Europe on May 14. My work will be
released in Africa through Universal/Def Jam. We don’t have these
structures in Africa, and they’ve seen how much money they’ve lost.
They’ve seen what I’ve done with Mohits. I made my pitch to them; I’ve
made them realize how much they were losing in the African region. Over
150m Nigerians, over 800m Africans. 2% of that is 8.5m. They were not
making anything except from S.A, which has been the US of Africa. So we
will be launching this label in Ghana, in partnership with Vodafone,
launching in Nigeria in partnership with MTN. Def Jam Africa will be up
soon; Kenya, SA, and North Africa will follow.
Why are you risking all this? What if you burn your fingers and lose everything you’ve worked for?
D'Banj:
Lose out? Well, I am happy I even have something to risk. To whom much
is given, much is expected. Look at Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Jay Z,
Kanye West, these people take it to the max, take it to where they
believe that they can push it to. In the first instance, coming back to
Nigeria with Jazzy was because I was a risk taker. And I wouldn’t say
I’m throwing everything away. I would say I’m putting everything back
in, in order to rip into the future. I get a broadcast from Tonye Cole
everyday. He says when you tell people this your vision, know that it’s
not for you alone – it’s for everyone. It’s like what Fela did. If what
I’m doing doesn’t work, but sows that seed that will germinate in three,
five years, it means my name will be written in gold.
Some people have tried this before you, unsuccessfully. Do you have doubts and fears sometimes?
D'Banj:
My last album was in July 2008 – no album in four years and I know what
I still command in those four years. The momentum for me to be able to
do this is because I see how much it took me, I saw the benefit, it’s
God, and the favour of the relationships we’ve built. Plus, I don’t take
no for an answer, I don’t take negativity. It will work in Jesus’ name.
If not, I wouldn’t have landed in the UK and hear Oliver Twist on the
radio. Nor would I be in the mainstream media with them saying I’m
pioneering afrobeats. I said to them ‘Oh hell no, that’s Fela’s music.
Fela is the legend.’ So I pray to God – I beg my fans, it‘ll be good to
do half a million downloads. It’s possible, it’s a different market.
Platinum in UK is 300,000. I believe with the support of my people in
Redding, Coventry, Dusting, Hackney, Thamesmead, Abbeywood, we can do
it.’
And so, as I say my
goodbyes and flag down the cab that’ll take me to Heathrow Airport, I
can’t help thinking out loud: should one man sacrifice the wishes of the
collective on the altar of ambition and material wealth? But then, what
should be expected of the man whose dreams and ambition grow beyond
those of other – possibly myopic- members of the collective: should an
individual sacrifice his personal desires; derail his destiny, so to
speak, in the interest of the collective?
In all of this, faithfulness and loyalty have been brutally murdered. And the jury is still out on who pulled the trigger.Culled from: TheNetNG
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